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Requested move at Talk:Tarifit#Requested move 9 January 2025

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tarifit#Requested move 9 January 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Fathoms Below (talk) 01:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FAR for Nahuatl

I have nominated Nahuatl for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Erinius (talk) 17:06, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mid-Atlantic accent

I look a bit worried at this edit. Especially be cause I cannot find a "lengthy" discussion on the talk page. Just a normal discussion. Is this a correct edit? The Banner talk 00:38, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The section titled "Request for comment: partial split or total merge?" as well as what are currently the final three sections are probably all relevant. Largoplazo (talk) 04:01, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, then I leave it. Still templates with a link to disambiguation page to be fixed. I am not doing that, as it would be gambling. :-) The Banner talk 13:06, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of your articles that are in Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors, 2025

Currently, this project has about ~163 articles in need of some reference cleanup. Basically, some short references created via {{sfn}} and {{harvnb}} and similar templates have missing full citations or have some other problems. This is usually caused by templates misuse or by copy-pasting a short reference from another article without adding the full reference, or because a full reference is not making use of citation templates like {{cite book}} (see Help:CS1) or {{citation}} (see Help:CS2). To easily see which citation is in need of cleanup, you can check these instructions to enable error messages (Svick's script is the simplest to use, but Trappist the monk's script is a bit more refined if you're interested in doing deeper cleanup). See also how to resolve issues.

These could use some of your attention

To do

If you could add the full references to those article/fix the problem references, that would be great. Again, the easiest way to deal with those is to install Svick's script per these instructions. If after installing the script, you do not see an error, that means it was either taken care of, or was a false positive, and you don't need to do anything else. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hinglish

respected person, I want to request hinglish Wikipedia language. So many Indian people r hinglish speaker. sleepy🥱 • 03:04, 4 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are you proposing the creation of a Hinglish Wikipedia, or merely dissatisfied with the existing article Hinglish? —Tamfang (talk) 19:03, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Template talk:IPAc-ar § Voiced postalveolar affricate d͡ʒ

You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:IPAc-ar § Voiced postalveolar affricate d͡ʒ. waddie96 ★ (talk) 21:25, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

editors adding spurious ISO language codes to IPA

Moved to Template talk:IPA

– Nardog (talk) 04:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

which ISO code should we use for dialects that don't match the IPA inventory of the key?

We used to have dedicated IPA templates for situations like these. How should we handle them now that everything's been rolled into a single ISO-based IPA template?

In a few cases [mis] is used for dialects of German, English etc., rather than [de] and [en]. That makes sense in a way, because using [de] or [en] will link to the standard IPA keys for German and English, which will not explain the IPA symbols being used. But that's not the proper use of [mis], and given how few tokens there are, we're evidently doing something else in most cases.

([mis] is mostly used either for languages that have WP articles but don't have ISO codes, or for protolanguages and stages of reconstruction in etymologies. I think I've fixed up everything else, but didn't know what to do with dialects.) — kwami (talk) 21:34, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As the documentation for the template and category says, use |generic=yes. Nardog (talk) 02:29, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks — kwami (talk) 02:56, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How is consensus in RS evaluated? How are RS for classification of languages even found? What keywords are used when searching and where?

I've been having a lot of trouble with this... How is consensus evaluated? How are RS found? Oftentimes when I try to look up phylogenetic classification of specific parts of a language family, or a group(s) of dialects in relation to each other (i.e. Northern English, Scots, and Yola in relation to each other, other English dialect groups, and Old and Middle English dialect groups), I can't find much of anything. And it's impossible to tell whether I'm just not looking up the right keywords or if the information I'm looking for doesn't exist. Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:21, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Kuna language#Requested move 25 February 2025

An editor has requested that Kuna language be moved to Guna language, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. Pineapple Storage (talk) 20:16, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Template:IPA pulmonic consonants has an RfC

Template:IPA pulmonic consonants, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Kanguole 11:48, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Selkʼnam language

I moved this from 'Ona language' because [a] that's the name used for the people, which we generally want to be the same as the language, and [b] it's the endonym, and is used by e.g. glottolog. The move request is from an editor who isn't actually proposing Ona, but is opposed to writing glottalized consonants in English names, despite how they're addressed by the MOS. If all articles went to Selknam with a plain k, I think that would be fine too, but they should be consistent — kwami (talk) 23:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is English the de jure official language of Antigua and Barbuda?

I have had this question for quite some time. While English is the dominant language in the government, similarly to the United States or Australia, there is no mention of a de jure official language in Antiguan and Barbudan law (search here). I recently visited the Government Printery to confirm my suspicion, and it appears that the laws website is fully up to date and complete. I also searched through rulings of Antigua's Supreme Court (search here) which also do not mention English as an official language. Based on my knowledge, there is no legal basis that English is the de jure official language of Antigua and Barbuda. Should articles mentioning English as the official language of Antigua and Barbuda be updated to mention it as a de facto official language? CROIX^talk 13:17, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Official" is by definition "de jure". "De facto official" is a contradiction. Largoplazo (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so should we state on the article that there is simply no official language? I had seen the term de facto official on Argentina and assumed it was correct. CROIX^talk 17:01, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, followed by the note that English is the "working language in official proceedings" or some such appropriate phrasing. If you're talking about the infobox, it can be put into the "other languages" section of the infobox with an appropriate label.

It also occurs to me (I'm talking in general, I don't know anything about the specifics of Antigua and Barbuda) that a given government body's internal rules may spell out the language or languages to be used for their own purposes. For example, a legislature's bylaws may specify that all legislative business will be conducted in English, or the courts may have a rule that proceedings will be in English (with translations provided for the defendant and witnesses if necessary) or that official records of the court will be published in English. Largoplazo (talk) 17:16, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Some minor government bodies do have bylaws requiring English capability, I'll be sure to mention this in the article. CROIX^talk 17:38, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Kuna language#Requested move 25 February 2025 (continued)

I posted about this move already (see above); more than 8 days have now passed, so the request has fallen into the backlog. If any uninvolved editors (admins or experienced non-admins) have time, please consider closing or relisting this request. Pineapple Storage (talk) 11:20, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting additional Eyes on discussion of Ilocano/Ilokano...

I'm in a discussion with apparently a member of Samahang Ilokano at User talk:Ilokano Pride. Would appreciate someone looking over my shoulder on the finer points of the article on the Ilocano language.Naraht (talk) 14:11, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Protected Akan articles need 3rd opinion on talk.

Several Akan articles are protected for a month due to an editor who provided a very nice source [Dolphyne] and now refuses to follow it. They are Akan language, Twi, Bono dialect and Bono people [coverage of language]. 3rd opinions would be welcome. Austronesier resolved some related articles, but they're no longer available. — kwami (talk) 19:49, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]